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Post by JayBee on Sept 8, 2003 17:59:20 GMT -5
The wholesale disappearance of No Monster Warehouse signs from Fairview St. at Jonathan Park and other places appears to mark a disturbing turn for the worse in the tactics of some folks who favor the warehouse. Those signs cost money and were put on the properties voluntarily by the property owners. It's unfortunate the lengths some will go to stifle free expression and debate. Let's all take a deep breath and a step back, and resolve to disagree in a spirit of mutual respect and civility.
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Post by d2usher on Sept 8, 2003 23:16:09 GMT -5
I learned this evening that in the last 24 hours some person or persons have removed "No Monster Warehouses" signs from the lawns (private property) on Fairview Street. This is a frightening trend when people are now trying to silence homeowners by forcing them to remove their signs or simply waiting until the cover of darkness to remove the signs themselves.
Our community faces a very tough debate and decision, and it's even tougher when we face people who do not care about laws or constitutional rights.
Now is the time to voice your opinion about the Keystone Proposal for the Otto farm, or better yet, to get involved. Only those with something to hide, fear an open and honest debate.
Here's a few easy ways to get involved: 1. Write a letter to the Sentinel or Patriot-News 2. Go to the next South Middleton Board of Supervisors meeting, Thursday, Sept 11th @ 6pm or send an email: supervisors@smiddleton.com
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Post by JayBee on Sept 9, 2003 20:47:03 GMT -5
Jeff, for the record, if you go back and read my posts you'll see that I never said anything about you or your reasons for taking a position on the signs. That's your business, and yours alone. But it does strike me as very odd that someone would tell you they wouldn't buy your house because there were signs in the neighborhood. After all, the signs are not part of the house and are not permanent; they'll be taken down when the warehouse issue is resolved if not before. Could it be the people who told you that weren't seriously interested anyway, and were just using that as a cover for their disinterest? Blowing smoke, maybe?
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Post by d2usher on Sept 9, 2003 22:05:18 GMT -5
Jeff, Thank you for your two notes tonight.....I did not believe it was you or anyway connected to you that the signs disappeared. It would not have made sense to be you and I am glad to know that assumption is correct.
I completely and absolutely feel for your situation. As I stated earlier, my wife and I just bought a lot in Middlesex Township about 1 mile as the crow flies from the proposed warehouses. Of course our realtor, nor the realtor selling the land mentioned anything about this proposed development to us. We had to find out through a neighbor. I know you are in an unteniable position, and I do not know how to help you out.
My point in commenting specifically about your situation was to demonstrate the absurdity of Ms. West's statement that the warehouses may or may not affect home prices. She claimed she only had one example, I wanted to provide her with a few more.
I am wondering if there is a way to make something positive out of this whole issue. Can this be presented to prospective buyers that yes there is a danger of warehouses, but look at the community, look at the participation, we are going to prevail and prevent these warehouses. Yes, it's a battle, but hey buyer, look around, if you move here, you are moving into a community that cares and that takes an active role in protecting itself. This is a community on the way up.
I know this isn't much, but I don't know what else to do as we are truly fighting for the vibrancy of the entire community.
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Post by JayBee on Sept 11, 2003 12:12:58 GMT -5
Jeff, trust me on this. Your problem isn't the signs, it's the warehouses.
-------------------------------------------------- Just say NO to BLIGHT!
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Post by d2usher on Sept 11, 2003 22:55:11 GMT -5
Jeff,
First, Thanks for your continued replies because by thinking about how you see things helps me better understand my position and viewpoint and hopefully do the same for other folks.
I can appreciate your point: "If everyone threw signs up in their yard to dispute or protest every issue on their mind, what would be next?" Believe it or not, I have never publically protested anything before, nor have I ever placed a sign (any sign) in my yard either. This scares the hell out of me, enough that I am willing to pollute my lawn for a while to stop it. I promise you, this battle is that important. The size and scope of this project and the for sure follow on development will be a very destructive force to our community, not just to one neighborhood or a handful of people. Keystone is banking on the fact that we don't have the intestinal Fortitude to stand up for our community.
As for point two, once again I agree with you. I will investigate the costs associated with a full-page ad in the Newspaper. Great Idea. Maybe we can get those people who oppose the warehouses and oppose the signs to donate money to this more "civil" form of protest?
Any other thoughts on how we can get more people involved. You know my feelings, but hey I want to hear how other people feel. The only thing I begrudge is APATHY.
Sincerely, Dave
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Post by Bernerlover on Sept 27, 2003 15:54:43 GMT -5
Kudos to Doug Wendt for his eloquent essay on what South Middleton residents want. I agree with his thoughts entirely and encourage every developer, would be developer, and township supervisor read his essay carefully! Thank you, Doug, for expressing my thoughts and concerns so well!!
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Post by unknown on Dec 7, 2003 17:39:17 GMT -5
on the note that someone took the signs off of fairview the signs where not taken to make anyone mad or start fights between ppl for that i apologize, it was just a childhood prank by some of the kids in town that thought they were stupid. i frankly dont care what happens, but you guys need to grow up and quit fighting about signs. come on there plastic signs you can make more of them. and to put the record straight the signs where stolen twice once in the nite, but then you said "This is a frightening trend when people are now trying to silence homeowners by forcing them to remove their signs or simply waiting until the cover of darkness to remove the signs themselves." (d2usher) that the ppl or person who took them has to hide in the shadows so the ppl or person took them in the daytime also. About the hundred dollar reward for those persons you would be better off buying more signs signed fed up with you ppl in this town
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